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Summary: Johannes is upset after finding out Carla is a lesbian. He tells Cecile after Carla's wedding to Berndt. For whatever reason, this particular vid kept getting the end cut off, so I divided it into 3 parts. Even so, it still cut off the final 5 or so seconds with Johannes breaking a framed pic of Carla against his knee.


Thank you, supercell!!! Maybe, since this is the English Area, I can say a little bit more about these scenes:

1. First Clip: Johannes tells Cecile about Carla:

**Carla couldn't be in a worse mood at her wedding. She just wants this day to be over. Her mood drops even more when Cecile catches the flowers so that she has to repeat the ritual. Bernd asks her what's wrong with her and if it is because of Hanna. Carla tells him that her father knows "everything" and that he's really mad at her.
** Bernd helps Carla out by breaking the tradition and throwing the flower bouquet himself. While he's doing this Ansgar (who betrayed Carla and took care that their father got information about her and Hanna) goes to Carla and asks her innocently why she is not feeling well. He's very pleased when she tells him that her father knows about her sexual orientation because "somebody" must have betrayed her.
** Cecile is sad because she thinks that Johannes is upset because of her (I guess she feels guilty because she's secretly in love with his son Leonard and has problems to hide it, as well as Leonard. But I'm not sure if that's the reason). Johannes tells her that it's not about her but about Carla, and that he found out that she's a lesbian. Cecile is shocked and asks Johannes why she married Bernd if that is true. And Johannes says: "Because I wanted it." Cecile (thinking of Leonard) says "You can't choose who you love". That's the moment when Johannes really gets mad. "That's not the point at all!", he yells. "She lied to me all these years!" He's really shocked that he apparently couldn't teach his children how to become honest people - Ansgar betrayed him too (financially).

(Sorry, I have to leave, work is waiting, I will post the rest later.)

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Thank you for the summary, Kim! Can't wait for the rest. :)


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2. Second clip: Johannes and Cecile:

Johannes and Cecile are holding hands and Johannes says "I' can't tell you how glad I am that you're here with me." Cecile responds "I'm your wife." And Johannes says "I love you." Of course, that's the moment when Leonard appears and Cecile tells him silently that this is a bad moment, so he leaves.

3. Third clip: Bernd and Carla

Bernd helps Carla to turn off her robe but has some problems. He accidentally tears apart the fabric and apologizes. Carla says something like "Who cares anyway." And he says tenderly "Today isn't our day, is it?"

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By the way, are the following scenes online with English subtitles:

** Johannes watches (accidentally) the video where Carla talks to Bernd about Hanna?

** Johannes confronts Carla?

** Johannes reads Hanna's letter and makes it up with Carla?

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For some reason I like that poor Bernd from the beginning. First, he was there because he fell in love with Carla. But later, after he learned about the nature of love Carla and Hanna's love, he was just simply supportive.

I have been playing with a few options why he was like that (since I haven't seen a lot of scenes about Bernd, I can't make the final judgement :) )

1. He eventually learned he could never win Carla's heart, so he eventually accepted that fact but never really stopped adoring her - and his infatuation gradually grew into that illusion of being next to her but never having her (as long as his residence in the castle lasted), thus becoming her loyal friend.

2. He seems like the guy who never has had a meaningful purpose in his life. Living next to Carla, having all privileges of her family and what-a-woman to show up with, he accepted all those advantages - and found some sort of a friend in Carla, a friend that he had never had anyway!

3. Maybe he also has nothing but respect for Carla&Hanna's love, as we all did :) :), and when Hanna died, he was simply taken by Carla's grief.

4. Being the con, Bernd also knows, like many of them, to see and recognize and even have a huge, although silent respect for direct and non-manipulative people.

5. And maybe, a little bit of everything mentioned above.

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kimlegaspi hat geschrieben:
By the way, are the following scenes online with English subtitles:

** Johannes watches (accidentally) the video where Carla talks to Bernd about Hanna?

** Johannes confronts Carla?

** Johannes reads Hanna's letter and makes it up with Carla?



There are clips I think, but no translations. So if anybody has it, please, please, please, post it.

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For St. Patrick's day here's a link to one of my favorite Irish ballads, in honor of Hanna and Carla.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGv3S6Tbd1U[/youtube]


On the Banks of the Lee by Silly Wizard (the band is Scottish, ballad's Irish)

Where true lovers meet beside the green bower
Where true lovers meet at beneath the green tree
And Mary, fond Mary, she says unto her true love
"You have stolen my young heart by the Banks of the Lee"

Chorus:
For I loved her very dearly, most truly and sincerely
There is no one in this wide world I loved more than she
Every bush and every bower, every wild Irish flower
Reminds me of my Mary, on the banks of the Lee.

"Don't stay out too late love, on the moorlands, my Mary
Don't stay out too late, love, on the moorlands for me"
But it's little was my notion when we parted by the ocean
That we were forever parting by the Banks of the Lee

Chorus

I will pull my love some roses, some wild Irish roses
I will pull my love some roses, the fairest to see
And I'll lay them on the gravesite of my own dear darlin' Mary
On that cold and silent grave where she sleeps 'neath the dew

Chorus


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yeees!! loved that Canna music thing :) hehe

and i wanted to ask you...were are any hints about 'too shy shy hush hush eye to eye' before Carla said it so beautifully that i can hardly imagine anyone else would have said it, in such a subtle, happy, peaceful, and a bit melancholic way, as if she was in paradise, gazing in Hanna's eyes, trying to rewind the beautiful things that had just happened...(omg, sorry got carried away) heheh...

so my question is: did they talk about this song, or did it play, or something like that... before Carla sang that bit?

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Hey icicle :) . Carla and Hanna sang that song together at the afterwork party. And they listened to it (separately, each one at home) later that night. Here's the afterwork party without subtitles:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rcmNC2rXL8[/youtube]

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oh my god!!! thank you so so so much :D i was soooo happy to see them together singing hehe loved it!! :) and do you have the clip where each of them listens to it at home??
thanx again!!
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i have to learn german! :) to understand what they are saying...!!

so after this, they go at hanna's place so that she could take the record and something beautiful happens ...:) yes:) i am a newbie so i am sorry to ask these silly questions :) but i love the story!...

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This is a bit off topic (sorry for that), but icicle, I was wondering if you saw the subtitled clips that Novemberstern posted? Thanks to her you don't need to learn German ;). The afterwork party and what happened after it is probably part of clip 10 - which we Germans can't watch on youtube for copyright reasons. But I'd guess that you can watch it. Since I can't watch it I don't know whether the scenes where Hanna and Carla are both listening to "Too shy" alone are also part of clip 10.

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Here are the links to all scenes I subtitled in the past...unfortunately it's not the complete Canna story...

Carla & Hanna Part 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gch-cqZi40

Carla & Hanna Part 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ix5QGaqDE

Carla & Hanna Part 3
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BHvUni2Cp8M

Carla & Hanna Part 4
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5P4ggLlGiW8

Carla & Hanna Part 5
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QFJg1YYoKm4

Carla & Hanna Part 6
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=D2RM7kgsvLg

Carla & Hanna Part 7
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MulJGN_swys

Carla & Hanna Part 8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GKmW8GS1_eU

Carla & Hanna Part 9
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWNMCHHXJ0

Carla & Hanna Part 10
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=o9FnHGZq_9E

Carla & Hanna Part 11
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ghNdSz284xw

Carla & Hanna Part 12
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t8FGtUxyzck

Carla & Hanna Part 13
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b2OO6wFCFw8

Carla & Hanna Part 14
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uXMqoH9euy4

Carla & Hanna Part 15
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sQTjG563MXI

Carla & Hanna Part 16
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TifatlwLG4c

Carla & Hanna Part 17
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5LOT9zZxzTA

Carla & Hanna Part 18
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h82KO18iZFI

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