Current VL Episodes...

The misunderstandings, arguments, conflicts between Carla & Stella cud serve to strengthen their bond as time goes by. As they discover each other's strengths & weaknesses, love grows. On the contrary, I thot the abrupt change of heart in Stella was too sudden. Viewers were left to imagine how Stella cud suddenly exclaim that she is in love with Carla. I for one, imagined that it started after the drunken kiss, after Carla confided about Francesca/Maria, then the picnic in the park, then I suppose many other incidents b4 the death of Luise's father where Stella realised how much she cared for Carla. Ah... all the missing parts.

True, B! It'd be great to have seen Stella coming to terms with the fact that there's always this "thing" between she and Carla but was never realized due to all the misunderstandings and the fact that Carla's Stella's boss! The abrupt "Oh, I've fallen in love with Carla" exclamation from Stella was a bit unrealistic. Unless we put all the missing parts in our heads ourselves when we watch the scene... Hey, me too! I put all the missing parts in my head to make sense of Stella's sudden realization and the 1st sign of Stella's realization, IMO, was the drunken kiss, then the closer friendship when Carla started to confide in her, then the park where Stella first spent time with Sophia (which she actually suggested to Carla herself back in her office, which could be construed as another subconscious sign), then slowly realizing that Carla has a front that she puts out when she's faced with bad/sad news, etc.., unlike her judgemental comments before (remember when Sebastian was kidnapped and Stella misjudged Carla's way of dealing with it?), and starts to defend Carla's actions (hence her speech to David in her office), etc.... all that... It's extraordinarily good stuff if we include all these missing scenes!

I did at one point thot that the closeness between the 2 will make Carla jealous & that cud be another story - u know, jealousy, reassurance, reconciliation, make-up sex..... Lol.

Oh no! I wouldn't have liked it one bit - the jealousy thing... that'd be too stressful for me! Poor Carla, then!

So true, but I still think it's wrong. It's so cliched and a cop out whether it happens to lesbians or gay men.

Oh, I totally agree - it's wrong! Definitely. But at least the cliche is not just limited to lesbians depicted on TV, you know what I mean? 'Coz I don't recall seeing this cliche on any gay men depicted on TV... not that there are that many gay characters anyway, especially gay men!

I think they are setting it up as a great romance between Christian and Rebecca - it has the classic VL trademarks: unrequitted love, overcoming obstacles, hardships, etc. Christian was with women before Olli, and Olli is bi I think, and there is another guy who seems to be interested in him if the spoiler photos are anything to go on. It all points towards a bumpy ride for Chrolli.

A great romance??!! No, no, NO!! Why??!! Why can't it be a great romance between 2 men?! Well, if Christian was with women before and he's not really gay, then VL has a defence there. Olli is bi?! What?! I always thought he was gay through and through! Oh no! But, ok, if the preview pics are what we think the writers are gearing up for, then we'll see Olli with this other guy, then.... But don't you think it's a little rare that a supposed gay guy switches teams? Fascinating. If I'm not mistaken, women are more inclined to sway either way more easily and commonly whereas it's harder for men.... at least that's what I've heard and read....

The writers seem to be rehashing old storylines - Lars-SuCa as everyone has noted, and I think the Helena/Andi storyline is a lot like Carla and Stella prior to Charlie. Is there nothing new for them to come up with (besides incest)? Maybe some of the mature actors should get together - I'd like to see Elizabeth and Charlie myself

Good one, Ad! Incest, indeed! I guess so! Well, how many years is VL on the tube now? Almost 15, right? Stories are bound to be re-told, I guess... I'm just glad that Starla has been spared from these potentially disastrous relationship mess!

Elisabeth and Charlie - - No, you're kidding! They're perfect bosom buddies - like Carla and Nathalie!

I thought Stella fell for Charlie b/c she was nice and the total opposite of Carla, who face it girls, was in kinda bitch-mode at the time. Turning a little hard (for good reason). I thought Charlie was more attracted to Stella's soul. Face it, Stella is really a nice and kind person. Her beauty is inside as well as out. Plus it had to have been flattering, qa 30 yr old falling for her. But alas, no pensi so no romance.
As for Carla, I always thought that Stella had feelings for her, but it wasn't untill Carla was there for her as a friend first after the breakup that the blinders finally came off and she saw the beauty of Carla inside as well as out.
I like the Starla relationship b/c to me it seems to be grounded in friendship first. It didn't start off as sexual, it evolved.

I thought Stella fell for Charlie b/c she was nice and the total opposite of Carla, who face it girls, was in kinda bitch-mode at the time. Turning a little hard (for good reason). I thought Charlie was more attracted to Stella's soul. Face it, Stella is really a nice and kind person. Her beauty is inside as well as out. Plus it had to have been flattering, qa 30 yr old falling for her. But alas, no pensi so no romance.
As for Carla, I always thought that Stella had feelings for her, but it wasn't untill Carla was there for her as a friend first after the breakup that the blinders finally came off and she saw the beauty of Carla inside as well as out.

I totally agree. Well put.

As for Carla, I always thought that Stella had feelings for her, but it wasn't untill Carla was there for her as a friend first after the breakup that the blinders finally came off and she saw the beauty of Carla inside as well as out.
I like the Starla relationship b/c to me it seems to be grounded in friendship first. It didn't start off as sexual, it evolved.

Well put, Kendahl! I agree - blinders. I like the gradual evolution of Stella's opinion of Carla - it's like peeling of an onion...! She finally saw the real Carla beneath all the layers. Also, me too, I like the fact that they were firm friends first, instead of making their relationship a sexual one right from the get-go. I'd have loved to see more scenes of Stella's gradual realization that she's always had some kinda feelings for Carla before she finally professed that she was in love with Carla with Charlie. But I can't complain. Time was of the essence, I guess! I also appreciate the fact that Charlie and Stella remained good friends after their break-up. One comment that I really loved from Charlie when Stella told her about her feelings for Carla - "I've always thought you two would make a perfect couple!" Sweet! Even Charlie saw what Stella didn't see!

Well, even before their first kiss, it was clear that Stella was caring of Carla. Think back to the times she held her or consoled her. But then remember the conversation Stella had with Christian at her door after the 'Charlie' reveal, in which she said that Carla never expresses or says what she feels. Carla was to emotionally distant. It was only after that facade fell, and that Carla was there for her as a friend despite her own issues with Maria, that Stella realized she had been wrong about Carla and her feelings begin to grow. I think the embers had always been there (witness their first kiss) but it was then the flames begin to start to grow. Make sense?

Well, even before their first kiss, it was clear that Stella was caring of Carla. Think back to the times she held her or consoled her. But then remember the conversation Stella had with Christian at her door after the 'Charlie' reveal, in which she said that Carla never expresses or says what she feels. Carla was to emotionally distant. It was only after that facade fell, and that Carla was there for her as a friend despite her own issues with Maria, that Stella realized she had been wrong about Carla and her feelings begin to grow. I think the embers had always been there (witness their first kiss) but it was then the flames begin to start to grow. Make sense?

Yup, ditto to that, K! Stella's the type who wears her heart on her sleeve whereas Carla doesn't 'coz I think being closeted for so long, Carla sort of got used to hiding her true feelings and had a "public" facade that she'd put on (which we usually see in public, prominent figures particularly those with a certain status in the society - so it was a believable depiction for me). It's kind of like a defensive shield. Additionally, Carla did explain (which I totally understood her POV) to Stella that she had to always be level-headed, calm and collective, without getting all emotional where her family's concerned 'coz face it, she was the "head" of the family, head of a conglomerate that her father built into a huge success (huge pressure there!). Everyone in the family was looking up to her for strength and support in the midst of chaos or problems - case-in-point, the Sebastian incident. So, she had this huge responsibility on her shoulders that she felt she had to upkeep (primarily because she never wanted to let her father down), hence had to put her own emotional turmoil or feelings about everything in the backburner. That was when Stella first started to understand a bit about Carla's position and felt bad that she'd misjudged her - hence the 1st hug.... which was so very endearing... awwwww! I loved that scene! Then, the understanding progressed as time went by before Stella finally had the "Eureka!" moment about her true feelings for Carla!

Carla also had misjudged Stella as well - in the beginning where she was poised to believe that Stella was an unsympathetic person (due to her blase apology when she accidentally soaked Carla!) - until Stella came to her rescue at "No Limits", comforted her, even protected her from having to answer Gregor's question about how she was doing that evening & then suggested calling her a cab... PLUS, the day after, right before Carla stepped into her Porsche, Stella caringly asked Carla to be careful.... Another awww moment. Both incidents had changed Carla's mind about her initial judgement of Stella's character. But even then, there was still a process she was going through where Stella was concerned 'coz remember, Carla didn't trust Stella at first; then gradually, she did..as she recognized more and more good qualities in Stella. So, for Carla too, her feelings for Stella was friendly first which gradually turned into a sexual attraction later on.

All in all, I like that both of them had all sorts of misunderstandings and misjudgements about each other and went through a similar process before the "realization". It was not one-sided, albeit, Carla had the opportunity to recognize her attraction to Stella first before Stella did.... Out-of-sync timing, I guess! Oh, probably one of the factors was becoz of the employer-employee "sticky" situation, eh?

Anyway.... gosh, what a long ramble!

I didn't watch yesterday's show, but apparently Charlie told Christina Brandner that Sophia was with her mother and Stella travelling around the world. Mystery solved. LOL

I didn't watch yesterday's show, but apparently Charlie told Christina Brandner that Sophia was with her mother and Stella travelling around the world. Mystery solved. LOL

Ooo, I totally forgot to check out yesterday's episode! I got so busy I actually forgot that yesterday was Monday! *sigh* Aging is a bitch, ain't it!

I should check it out later today... thanks for the tip about what Charlie said! It's great that the adorable little family (Starla+Sophia) is being mentioned periodically by the residents of VL, isn't it?

I totally agree with u all Ad, Kendal, Ccogz. The build-up of their relationship from friends to lovers was so beautifully progressed. And to think that in more than one occasion, Stella did mention that Carla was not her type. Guess wat she really meant was that she wouldnt fall in love with her employer. Mmm.... discussing this relationship & reading Ccogz' rambling makes me melancholic all over. *sigh*.... I really miss them so much. I've been rewatching all epis of Starla for umpteen times, I'm beginning to be able to speak German. And everytime I see Elizabeth entering her office, I thot I was gonna see Stella there. Everytime they show a dining scene, I imagine Carla there. Am I going bonkers? :doof:

And everytime I see Elizabeth entering her office, I thot I was gonna see Stella there. Everytime they show a dining scene, I imagine Carla there. Am I going bonkers? :doof:

You are not alone

I make videos to ease my obsession - they are on youtube if you want to check them out. Maybe they'll help

I really miss them so much. I've been rewatching all epis of Starla for umpteen times, I'm beginning to be able to speak German. And everytime I see Elizabeth entering her office, I thot I was gonna see Stella there. Everytime they show a dining scene, I imagine Carla there. Am I going bonkers? :doof:

Bonkers? Bollocks! It's totally understandable, mate! It's like going through withdrawal, huh? I know what you mean - Elisabeth even starts to dress like Stella! Oh yeah, the dining room scenes - there's a big piece missing. Carla! Now, the dining scenes look so much more subdued and forlorn, eh?

You are not alone

I make videos to ease my obsession - they are on youtube if you want to check them out. Maybe they'll help

Hey Ad, love your vids. Brilliant. Now they r my new obsession. (Be prepared for a sudden increase in no. of views. lol) Oh boy, I have to say this again. I MISS STARLA SO MUCH!

Elisabeth even starts to dress like Stella!

Maybe thats the dress code for Castle Manager.

Hey Ccogz, cud u help me out here. Wat was Tristan saying to Tanya & later to the doctor in one of the epis? The one when Tanya suspected that she was drugged. And wat did Elizabeth say? Are Tanya & Elizabeth buddies now? Elizabeth seemed so caring over Tanya & Tanya seemed to be confiding in her. Tks mate.