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24.10.2009, 21:54

bette1985 hat geschrieben:But I cudn't help feeling so sad as that quarrel mirrored the one I had with my ex of 13 years. I was like Carla, in such a fiery mood that I refused to listen & when my ex kept quiet (like Stella did) I got even more pissed. That was the start of a series of misunderstandings which led to the end of our relationship. Looking back now, I felt that if I had been more patient & understanding then, I wud not have lost the love of my life.

Sorry for my sob story, just needed to get that out coz I'm wetting my pillow. :heul:


Hey, Bette! Sorry for my delay in responding. Things have been crazy for the past few days! Phew! Hopefully I can finally answer all my e-mails and get updated on the forum now! :oops:

First off, thanks for sharing your thoughts about your own experience that parallels what happened with Starla. I'm sorry to hear about your past relationship which I'm sure really brought a lot of painful memories when you watched the break-up episode. It was quite an intense quarrel between the 2 and both actors did a fine job. My gosh, CH was so piercingly cold toward Stella based on her misjudgement that I felt so sorry for Stella 'coz I wouldn't want to be in her shoes at that moment! But I also thought that while Carla was too quick to drop a verdict on Stella, I can understand how she must've felt 'coz she's very defensive and sensitive when it comes to Ansgar/Maria 'coz she's already been burnt by them one too many times already. So, whatever they do, she gets very touchy & extremely upset. Also, she's said it to Stella more than once that Stella's the only person in the world she trusts. So we kinda know that Carla's put all her "eggs" (in this case, trust) in one basket. So when that one basket (Stella) explodes, things naturally go haywire, so to speak. So, being so sensitive about Ansgar and his tactics already, she naturally jumped into conclusion that Stella was against her as well when she happened to overhear the last part of what Maria was saying and Stella's agreement to it. And once she's in that fiery mood, Carla will not listen to anyone nor any reason except hers. And it doesn't help when Stella is the opposite of Carla - quiet, reserved and keeps everything inside.

I think the writers wrote this story very well. Hence, people who've had similar experience as Starla, like you, actually could feel the intensity, the angst, the various emotions that are conjured up as a result of lack of understanding, lack of patience, lack of trust between two people in a relationship.

I hope the writers stay true to the continuance of this development between Carla and Stella. This is the stage of the relationship where we really see how they can reconcile. In relationships, when 2 people are sharing their life together, we always have to get through the obstacles/hurdles of misunderstanding, misjudgement between each other. That's why fights are healthy as long as we're able to reconcile with our differences and learn to understand, be patient and trust each other. In other words, communication is key! With reconciliation comes strength in the relationship. That's my opinion, anyway! :-)

Thank GOD for the previews - at least, now that we know there's a happy ending (yay!) I don't feel depressed about their fight and dreading for the bad ending!

Hey, mate, the only thing I can say is that we all learn as we tread our journey of life. Based on my personal experience, I feel that learning from my own trials and tribulations in relationships or anything in life, the harder they are to bear, I find that just when I least expect it, something positive turns up right around the corner. It's truly amazing sometimes when I think about it. But I guess that's what makes life so unpredictable and challenging. We'd never know what we're going to get. I truly believe that. So, don't beat yourself up too badly, mate. That thing that you least expect, it's gonna turn up, if it hasn't already, I'm sure of it!!! (Hopefully I don't sound too crazy, eh? :wink:)

24.10.2009, 22:59

Hey Ccogz, tks for taking time to respond to my rambling & for your words of encouragement. Yes, I totally agree with u that we do learn from life's experiences. Altho I went through a bad patch (falling into a depression for almost 3 years after my breakup), I managed to get thro with support from friends (tho they didnt know wat was wrong with me).

As for "that thing" that I least expect turning up? well, I really dun think it will happen. I believe love doesn't happen for everyone. And the likelihood of it happening for me is very very slim. Why? Becoz I'm gay living in a place where I cannot come out & where gay relationship is taboo. During the perod leading to my breakup with my ex, she actually found someone else (a guy) & told me that she wanted to live a "normal" life & experience the normal stages of getting married, having children, etc, etc... She even said that the time she had with me was just a phase in her life (imagine ... a 13-year phase, wat a joke!) So u see, no reconciliation is possible if she shuts me off with that kind of declaration.

Having said that, however, tho I'm alone, I'm not lonely coz I have friends. Friends who r there for me no matter wat, & that helps. Even internet friends like u Ccogz. Thanks for being here for me.

Oops, I'm rambling again. Well, just wanted to share this here in case there r someone else out there who share similar experiences & may also need support & encouragement. Having been thro a heartbreaking experience, I still feel that it is better to have loved & failed than not to have loved at all.

Back to Starla, wow I agree with u that the writers r doing a really great job. I like how the Starla relationship developed eventho this storyline is gonna end. (So different from the Otalia storyline which was so rushed that to me, it really didnt make much sense, culminating into an anticlimax).

I hope the writers stay true to the continuance of this development between Carla and Stella. This is the stage of the relationship where we really see how they can reconcile. In relationships, when 2 people are sharing their life together, we always have to get through the obstacles/hurdles of misunderstanding, misjudgement between each other. That's why fights are healthy as long as we're able to reconcile with our differences and learn to understand, be patient and trust each other. In other words, communication is key! With reconciliation comes strength in the relationship.


Very well said mate. I couldn't agree with u more.
Hope I'm making sense. It's 5 am & my eyes r wet & drowsy.... :schlafen:

24.10.2009, 23:08

Oops I'm so sorry mods. :oops: Shud have rambled in the chit chat thread. Well actually wanted to comment on the current episode but got carried away. So sorry. Must be due to lack of sleep.

Hey Ccogz, if u wish to continue this, we cud take it to the chit chat thread. Only if u can spare the time, mate. No obligation. I know how busy u r. :wink:

25.10.2009, 17:24

bette1985 hat geschrieben:Oops I'm so sorry mods. :oops: Shud have rambled in the chit chat thread. Well actually wanted to comment on the current episode but got carried away. So sorry. Must be due to lack of sleep.

Hey Ccogz, if u wish to continue this, we cud take it to the chit chat thread. Only if u can spare the time, mate. No obligation. I know how busy u r. :wink:


Well, your comments were related to the VL episode 'coz it was about the breakdown of a relationship due to various reasons like misunderstanding, mistrust, etc.... so I don't see why it'd be inappropriate. Now if we were to expand on your personal experience comments, then, yup, I'll see you on the "Chit Chat" thread, mate! :wink:

26.10.2009, 03:58

Yes, a new beginning of Stella and Carla. I'm exciting, will be interesting to see how things go with Starla.
Sounds good because I'm expecting a second "first time".
Otherwise, it would be nonsense, that the scene in the stall will remain the only such scene.
Hope dies last...

You hit the "SparK"

27.10.2009, 02:19

Spark hat geschrieben:Yes, a new beginning of Stella and Carla. I'm exciting, will be interesting to see how things go with Starla.
Sounds good because I'm expecting a second "first time".
Otherwise, it would be nonsense, that the scene in the stall will remain the only such scene.
Hope dies last...


I'm with you, Spark, I hope it too.
I dream of a big steaming kiss, for starters, followed by something more explicit in Carla's suite.
I don't know, I kinda dreamed of that yesterday.

I am hopeless :-(

27.10.2009, 02:52

Todays ep simply incredible. Probably, my expectations was again too high, but under a reconciliation I have really imagined something else... What please was this for a reconciliation between Carla and Stella??? No reunion, no apology, no kiss, no nothing. Now it's too end, the hope of beautiful scenes with Carla and Stella, there is no more. I am disappointed and furious. :-( :wut:

27.10.2009, 03:14

We still have two weeks left on the show and
SPOILER ALERT:


A marriage proposal from Carla to Stella



It's not over until its over.

27.10.2009, 04:09

I was really expecting some make-up sex. who's with me? :-P

but hey at least we got Stella in tight jeans FOR ONCE. :-P

27.10.2009, 04:11

Kendahl897 hat geschrieben:We still have two weeks left on the show and
SPOILER ALERT:


A marriage proposal from Carla to Stella



It's not over until its over.


I think everyone knows it. But at least for me this is not the most important.
Bad that is not showing love, tenderness and etc. (TOO LITTLE)
And I do not expect more...

27.10.2009, 05:05

Disappointing epi (3492). The writers r not doing justice to Carla. The Starla scenes were rushed. With the buildup from the fight, to breaking up, to missing each other, I thot the reconciliation wud be the highlight. But, no. After knowing of Carla's accident, the next scene was just Stella sitting away from Carla watching her drink soup? No expression of concern & love seen. So sad. Writers were doing so well till now. Doesn't seem to be leading to a memorable exit for CH & AW.

I expected at least a sweet kiss. It was hotter with Hanna

27.10.2009, 05:35

kelza hat geschrieben:I was really expecting some make-up sex. who's with me? :-P

but hey at least we got Stella in tight jeans FOR ONCE. :-P

27.10.2009, 06:31

I know it's a disappointment but I just looked at spoilers again just to see when's the next Starla and it says NEXT WEEK? what are we going to see for the next 4 days? the reconciliation was bad enough but we're missing out on the remaining days! :?

27.10.2009, 13:35

They're on again together Friday, the 30th. They're just not in the written spoilers. I think they talk Gregory into having his wedding at the castle.

I agree yesterday's show was disappointing, but I wouldn't go so far as to say Stella wasn't loving. She kept her distance to a degree at first, true, but that was because they still hadn't talked about the big issue that has come between them from day one--the holding. Even when Carla said she just wanted to be happy with her and Sophia, the first thought that came to Stella's mind was the holding. Once Carla (finally) let go of the holding and the fight with Ansgar, you could see Stella starting to melt. She loves Carla, she wants to believe her, and she is giving her a chance to prove it.
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