Naw, Tristan/Helena were pretty dark at the beginning, not just because it was incest but also because he was really possessive. I mean they were always *pretty* together, but I think the show always made it very clear that it didn't approve of it/wasn't really romanticizing it, that the more healthy relationship was between Helena and her then boyfriend Andi (too bad that the actors had like anti-chemistry even when they tried, particularly in fight or casual couple scenes).
Like it wasn't just that Tristan and Helena were siblings but also that they always knew they were siblings AND that it was completely onesided AND that Tristan was a manipulative schemer character. Like, it is called Forbidden Love, but it doesn't support all loves just because they are forbidden. Like there are some things not even they will touch. But they still wrote the story with some sympathy. And I think one of parallel between that situation and now is that to me it was similar because it was the fight between his own needs/his desire to own/control/not share on one side and then genuine care/empathy on the other. Like for me one of the key moments of the story was when Tristan was exposed for what he had done and he essentially broke down and admitted to himself that he kinda had told himself that the ends justified the means (aka that Helena would be happier anyway in the end without Andi because Andi was a cad) but in the process he had hurt the only person he cared about. Like he has this drive/need, but he also had the empathy to realize how horrible it must feel for the other person. It's just sometimes the needs/dark revengeful desires take over and he loses sight of right or wrong. But I would consider him more empathic than the Tanja or Ansgar types (but also more unpredictable).
One of the German posters way back said that she liked about Tristan is there there was a certain androgyny to Tristan, like he's still a guy but there are like some female-ly sides to him as well in his demeanor (ok, I'm probably phrasing this really badly and confusingly), but I always thought that that made a lot of sense, that Tristan would be that way because the original twin story made a huge fuss about how emotionally close and "one" Tristan and Helena were, how they had a deep emotional understanding/connection [btw, I always thought that there was something deeply narcissist about Tristan falling in love with the person he considered his "other half/part of himself"]. Basically if you spend your life feeling like you live halfway inside the brain of your sister, no wonder you are capable having a developed female side
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What I find surprising is how did Tristan/Helena get to a place where they could be 'normal' around one another? Ya know with him trying to rape her and all.
Errr, soap magic? Naw they just said that it was an "insane phase" and that that insane phase was now cured and hence the things he did during the insane phase "didn't really count" (ok they never actually said that but that was the implication). Basically Tristan had this coma experience where he cured himself (don't ask, it was stupid). He then woke up, willingly confessed all his recent bad deeds, got kicked out of castle for it. He then moved in with Tanja where he mostly sat around and angsted and professed his intention to stay away from the family because he had learned the error of his ways. Then one day Helena showed up, announced that her twin intuition told her that Tristan was better now and that it was ok if he returned into the family (ok again not literally like that, but pretty close, plus some other stuff like Tristan trying to help to save the life of their father Ludwig). And they weren't really fine immediately. Like Tristan was kinda looked at suspiciously from the family still put proved his redemption by bearing that without freaking out. Plus if you look at the older videos they used to be a lot more giddy and touchy feely back then and compared to back then they are a lot more restrained/normal people now.
Plus then after a year or so they did a story where Helena accidentally killed her best friend's husband in a hit and run and kinda had her own spell with depression/suicidal thoughts and Tristan was there for her *without* hitting on her and after that they were basically back on close friendship basis, with Tristan wishing Helena happiness with her then doctor boyfriend and Helena wishing him happiness with Marlene.
But yeah, the general gist is that the family looks at the "Tristan tried to rape Helena" time as having a bout with insanity/not having been himself but he's all better now.
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Bloody hell how intuitive are Marbecca fans?!
I feel like making a "perfect fans for the perfect couple" joke